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Issue 13

Issue 13

01 - front cover
02 -
03 - editorial
04 -
05 - matchday
06 - bill williams' managerial reign
07 -
08 - 'ere mate, who do you support
09 -
10 - you're having a laugh/lookalike
11 - spotlight on steve sedgley
12 -
13 -
14 - admin
15 - wiao court of appeal
16 -
17 -
18 - everybody's free
19 -
20 - fans united
21 -
22 - ivor bowntapik tells it like it is
23 -
24 - back cover

 

BILL WILLIAMS' MANAGERIAL REIGN

Ok, so Bill Williams will be remembered as the manager who couldn’t even beat Brockenhurst. The manager who changed an entire squad of players and replaced what he had with even worse. The manager who spent Kingstonian’s last pennies on Steve “pass it to my feet or don’t bother passing it” Brown, Steve “you’re a disgrace you lot” McKimm and Stuart “not able to make the commitment” Munday. And rightly so.

For those of you who missed Mr Williams’ reign (you especially Mr Editor) – we were awful. The high point had to be the four-one win at home to Billericay, but that’s easy. There were but four victories for the Williams K’s and two of those were secured by just a single goal.

However the low point is fairly easy to spot too. Defeat at Brockenhurst was embarrassing, painful and sickening. When news broke of the financial problems just days after, that defeat looked even worse. Putting all of your eggs in one basket is one thing, but putting them all in one basket and handing it to a man who has never got past the qualifying rounds of the FA Cup is quite another.

But this is becoming all a bit unpalatable. If nothing else, Bill Williams was (and presumably still is) a very nice guy. He knew what he wanted and he went out and got it. And if one thing is certain, it is that he didn’t deserve to be sent back to Dover for more “financial difficulties”. If ever there was a man with a reason to look forward to the new year it is he.

And anyway, he did have some good times in KT1. There were the friendlies of course. Our first glimpses of the “new-look” hoops were certainly encouraging, but the pre-season successes probably just added to the weight of opinion that the league would be a walk-over. Of course it was never going to be anything of the sort. Three defeats, one huge brawl and one scrappy win at Maidenhead from the first four games put K’s in seventeenth at the end of August, and the pressure was on.

Yet as the month of September got going, K’s tried to do the same. Handing Hitchin two early goals wasn’t the best idea, but the fight-back was encouraging – as was the similar performance at Purfleet. By now some of the youngsters who will presumably play such a part this season had made their entrances, and Bashiru Alimi and Greg Ball certainly looked to know more than some of their more expensive counterparts.

The centre-forward’s hat-trick against Billericay finally gave the (ever decreasing) home faithful something to cheer, and two early goals as home to Grays seemingly confirmed the fact that the season had finally got going. Yet that really did turn out to be the beginning of the Williams’ end.

Three goals gave the visitors the three points, the confidence disappeared and defeat at Hendon became a mere formality. But nobody really thought that Brockenhurst would be that much of a problem. They are, after all, some way below K’s in the pyramid, and we all had our recent memories of the 2000/2001 cup run to look back on.

But in the end it didn’t quite turn out as expected. Those who don’t know what happened – don’t worry about it. The fact that they weren’t actually very good doesn’t matter. The fact that K’s missed several guilt-edged opportunities doesn’t matter. We lost. Nothing else matters.

Those who waited around after the game did so for just one reason – to find out if the manager would fall on his sword. He didn’t, but just three days after his last game in charge (a three-nil win at home to Bedford) he was pushed onto it, along with nine of his charges.

Quite how Bill Williams will be remembered is unclear. There is obviously no point comparing him to the man that he replaced, but when some more time has passed it may be that it is the ex/new Dover man who gets some of the credit for bringing “the youngsters” through. It may be that it is they who hold a chunk of the future of this club in their hands, and if that proves so then perhaps we should all say a quiet thank you to him. And just think of the money we’ll all save on FA Cup ties this year.

Gary

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'ERE MATE, WHO DO YOU SUPPORT?

This question has formed the opening gambit in thousands of conversations, usually although not exclusively held by men, in pubs, clubs, the workplace, trains, etc. You name the place, the question’s been asked there. It is most often the first question in the forthcoming battle for territorial advantage as one supporter locks horns with other supporters. It differentiates, an opinion usually held by the questioner, the men from the boys (sorry ladies) and can often cause aggression or total embarrassment depending on the answer.

I attended my first football match in about 1954, at the age of eight. The game was held at Richmond Road between K’s and someone else, my memory fails me here. I must have enjoyed it as I have been hooked ever since. At the same time I was given a Charlie Buchan’s football book as a present and decided I should pick another team to follow in addition to the K’s. No TV or Internet then so the book was the only option. Having looked through it, I decided that I liked the colours of Manchester United and so started a love affair with that club as well as K’s. I have always felt fortunate that I did not like the colours of Accrington Stanley or Scunthorpe. Having said that, I now live closer to both these sides than K’s so perhaps it would not have been such a disaster.

So, whenever the question has been asked of me, “who do you support?” I have always answered Kingstonian and Manchester United. Until a couple of years ago, this answer has always resulted in the retort “ who the f… is Kingstonian”. How times change! Thanks to Geoff Chapple the majority of true football fans now know the name of Kingstonian FC and so my level of embarrassment has diminished with every success in tandem with my increase in pride. Strangely enough the first FA Trophy win gave me far more pleasure than United’s treble win. Possibly because I expect United to win every match whereas with K’s I just hope and pray.

So having decided to support a team, how does the human race display this affection or illness, as some perceive it to be? Well, we buy the club scarf, the club shirt, the mini shirt for the car, the tie (more for the elder supporter this one), shares in the club and of course any literature pertaining to the club of one’s dreams. In the case of K’s this one is not too expensive as to the best of my knowledge, very little has been published up to now. Ok, so I have got the K’s scarf and the K’s shirt; the shirt looked particularly good in the Costa Blanca although I received a number of quizzical looks. I have got the ties and the mini shirts for both teams, got the K’s mug at work and the United mug at home, and finally to prove my total insanity, I own shares in both clubs.

Unlike many supporters who become totally obsessed with their own team, I also like to think I am a football fan and visit many other clubs, except of course United where I can never get a ticket. So much for being a shareholder. I once attended a business meeting at the police station in Liverpool where I was advised to remove the United shirt lest my car windows were kicked in. The K’s shirt was perceived to be that of St Helens Rugby Club so I made no attempt to correct them.

My two teams are at opposite ends of the footballing spectrum. The one being a financial empire whilst the other is struggling to be a financial outhouse. However the difference is best illustrated in the way that the smaller club becomes a part of your family. I remember having a particularly long chat with Geoff Chapple at Chester prior to the game that saw us relegated. He was so approachable and made me think about the last time I was able to discuss the team tactics with Sir Alex. Yep, you’ve got it, never!

One of the benefits(?) of being a shareholder is that you receive the accounts of both clubs. At one time I determined to undertake a financial comparison between the two clubs, more out of morbid curiosity than for any fiscal reason. However when I realised that the sale of programmes at Old Trafford dwarfs the total turnover at Kingsmeadow, I gave up.

So that’s why I support them both. They have both given me joy and fits of depression, none more so that at the end of last season, but I carry on ever hopeful.

I started this article at the commencement of the new season with a combination of hope and expectancy. I am now concluding it after the Aldershot game when we were comprehensively stuffed 3-0, and we were lucky to get nil. So what has happened?

The club is now in administration, I understand, and the newly heralded manager has gone. We have a board that would plainly be unfit to run the finances at a WI Jumble Sale. If they made a profit they would quite probably lose the money on the way to the bank. We have a young manager in his first job running a club who could well fold in the very near future. I bet he wishes he were still playing. We have a defence that clearly cannot defend. A midfield who cannot create and a strike force who may well be very effective if they ever get to see the ball. And they say, “the only way is up”. Hope they are right. Come on you K’s.

Rory

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SPOTLIGHT ON STEVE SEDGLEY

A dismissal. A relegation. A departure ‘by mutual consent.’ Another departure ‘by mutual consent.’ Nine sackings. Bankruptcy. Little more than six months after arrival, Steve Sedgley is the part time manager of a Ryman league club, in the hands of administrators. The events that have led to his appointment have, to be put it mildly, been inauspicious. To an equal degree, however, they have been outside his control. His optimism after such trials speaks volumes. No bitterness, no ego, no backbiting, no regrets. Just an eagerness to prove himself and a youthful excitement about his first managerial position.

"Despite everything, I’m now where I want to be. I’m calling the shots. I’m making the decisions… My ambition now is to take Kingstonian to the Football League. No one else has managed to do that. That’s got to be the objective. I’ve won two FA Cups; but to get promoted, to win a championship, that’s got to be the best."

The financial plight of the club has decimated the squad. The list of sacked players is depressingly familiar but Sedgley prefers to talk about the fourteen contracted players that are still here, "The players that are left, I personally, would have kept anyway. I’ve played with Premiership and first division players and a few here could potentially play at that level, because when you play with better players, you become a better player yourself."

"One for me at the minute, without putting too much pressure on him, is young Bash (Bashiru Alimi) - he’s been outstanding and the find of the season. Then there’s young Max (Hustwick), Greg (Ball) and little Johnny Leacock."

He is, though, realistic about how far the current crop of players can go this season. "No other side in the League is playing is playing eight eighteen year olds and one seventeen year old every week. It’s a credit to the club that we can do that… but youngsters are going to have off days. It’s going to be slow progress but potentially they’re a very good side."

Sedgley arrived at Kingsmeadow following the controversial sacking of Ian McDonald. The justification given for the change by Alan Kingston was that the club needed new ideas and coaching methods. Sedgley admits that it never quite worked out that way, "When I got here, I found out that I had no coaching sessions…it was three games a week, so effectively I couldn’t do anything. Geoff asked my opinion once or twice, but I was the new kid on the block, so to speak, so I just came to the ground for the games, tried to give them a little team talk, and that was it. It was a very frustrating time and I thought of packing it in."

"There was talk of coming in extra nights and that, but it didn’t materialise - well, that was down to Geoff. When you’re a coach, you don’t make the decisions."

The circumstances of his appointment were hardly ideal. The team were involved in a struggle against relegation and many of the players felt aggrieved at the board’s decision to sack McDonald. But Sedgley maintains that he was only contacted after McDonald had departed, "First night I felt very unsure. I’d never been in that situation before…and from the outside I suppose it didn’t look good, but I’m not that sort of person at all, and I wouldn’t stab someone in the back… All the lads spoke highly of McDonald but I never got the chance to meet him."

"It did feel difficult; it felt weird for me, coming from being a player to a club where someone had got the sack, I didn’t know what to expect. Yeah, it was weird."

Relegation and Chapple’s departure followed. Under Bill Williams’ tutelage, Sedgley stayed on, ‘I learnt so much off Bill. He’s been such a great help and I still speak to him on the phone.’ But after a poor start to the season, Sedgley suddenly found himself thrust into the Manager’s office, with the club in dire financial straits, "People might say I’m too young, but I’ve always wanted to be a manager. I’ve got a lot to learn, and of course I’m going to make mistakes along the way… Only time will tell. My Dad was a non-league manager so I grew up with it. It’s in my blood."

Regardless, he has been forced to adapt quickly, and to reassure the current squad. "We get on with playing football. I said to the players that what’s going on has nothing to do with us. We all come here for a reason; because we enjoy football. We have a laugh and a joke. They’re still getting paid. Getting paid and playing football - what’s the problem?"

The recent sacking of the core of the squad, including club captain Simon Stewart, and long serving defender Colin Luckett, has led to harsh criticism of the board’s conduct, particularly in regard to claims by Stewart that he first found out about his dismissal through a local paper. Sedgley is quick to absolve himself and the board, "I was told to call in the players in question here at the ground before training. Simon Stewart was the only one who wasn’t told in person because he was ill. It got out to the lads on the night so Simon found out the next day from the press before I could speak to him."

"To be honest, I was very much in the dark like everybody else. We only knew late Tuesday night that there was a problem - after the Bedford game - we got in on the Thursday and Bill was leaving. I’ve never felt so…well, I’ve never seen anything like it in my career. I wasn’t told about budgets or anything. I mean Bill protected me right until the last day."

The future of the current board is far from clear. Sedgley is aware of past problems but professes to have encountered none himself, "I’ve experienced no backbiting like some people say. I know when I used to talk to Geoff going to away games, without elaborating too much, (that there were problems). I know the feelings of the supporters. I know the feelings of Geoff (Chapple) about what had gone on before… I heard all the rumours like you have. But that’s something I had nothing to do with and something I could do nothing about. What are we going to gain by talking about it now?"

He is frustrated by my insistence on discussing the past. Perhaps, he is right. With recent history already well discussed and documented, and the future open only to the gods (and the administrators), Steve Sedgley is concentrating on the present. And that seems to suit him just fine.

Season - Club - Games - Goals
1988/89 - Coventry City - 31 - 1
1989/90 - Tottenham Hotspur - 32 - 0
1990/91 - Tottenham Hotspur - 34 - 0
1991/92 - Tottenham Hotspur - 34 - 0
1992/93 - Tottenham Hotspur - 22 - 3
1993/94 - Tottenham Hotspur - 42 - 6
1994/95 - Ipswich Town - 26 - 4
1995/96 - Ipswich Town - 40 - 4
1996/97 - Ipswich Town - 39 - 7
1997/98 - Wolves - 19 - 0
1998/99 - Wolves - 44 - 3
1999/00 - Wolves - 38 - 4
2000/01 - Wolves - 05 - 1

Taimour

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ADMIN

I have spent much of the months since the last issue of WIAO mulling over what to write about. Many topics came, and even more went once Kingstonian was hit by that fateful day - 5th October. The not quite so unexpected (in some quarters) bombshell of the whole administration thing struck the club, and struck it hard.

There has been a lot of criticism of Geoff Chapple - for earning too much money and buying the wrong players for too much money. However, surely it was the board, admittedly not all of the current one, who negotiated his contact. Surely once a manager recognises a player he may wish to buy he approaches the board for the money and they ultimately have the final say in how much there is available to spend. Geoff Chapple didn't sign the cheques, if he did then something was seriously wrong.

Ok, so he made a few duff signings - everybody does, but he made some excellent ones as well. Dave Leworthy was worth more to our club than we could have ever paid for him, and bringing in our fabled three England stars on frees was a masterstroke. For a club who do not have a wonderful record of selling players for vast sums of money, he brought in a lot of transfer revenue - be it mostly on one player. Gavin Holligan was plucked from obscurity (sorry Kim) to missing a sitter at Anfield in half a year and swelling the clubs accounts by a cool £150,000.

What won't be forgotten is the success on the pitch achieved by Chapple and his coaching team(s). Despite the concerns regarding crowd levels last season, the initial success had almost immediately doubled crowd figures at Kingsmeadow. Two FA Trophy victories at Wembley brought unrivaled success and exposure to the club. Strong showings in the FA Cup culminated in last seasons wonderful cup run, which brought the biggest pot of Sky money yet - a cool £150,000.

So, the income was just as extravagant as the outcome was supposed to have been. But after a bad run lasting most of last season, we found ourselves relegated. Crowds and interest would plummet, but we were promised that the wage system would be adjusted accordingly. Considering that the youngsters had new contracts signed after relegated and that Bill Williams brought in a whole bunch of new players, it's pretty grim to hear that our wages were significantly higher than the £5k most decent Ryman Premier sides spent. So, the club continued to get deeper and deeper into debt. We would probably would still be in administration anyway, but the sums wouldn't be quite so ugly.

Well as far as I am concerned the buck has to stop with the directors - be they current or former. Chapple may have earned too much and the player contracts may have been too lucrative, but it is the directors who are the ones accountable for the running of the clubs finances and they should be the ones who admit that fact. Instead of trying to direct the blame to others, what is needed is a simple apology for the situation that we find ourselves in. It won't help the club financially but it would at least help us learn to trust them more.

Rich

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EVERYBODY'S FREE

Everybody's Free (To Support Kingstonian)
To the words by Mary Schmich and the song recorded by Baz Luhrmann

 

Ladies and gentlemen of the class of Ryman: Support K's.

If I could offer you only one tip for the future, supporting K's would be it. The long term benefits of supporting K's have been proven by scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice now.

Enjoy the power and beauty of Phil Wingfield. Oh, never mind. You will not understand the power and beauty of Phil Wingfield until he has faded. But trust me, in 20 years, you'll look back at photos of Wingers and recall in a way you can't grasp now how much possibility lay before him and how fabulous he really was. Sammy Winston is as fat as you imagine.

Don't worry about next season. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to convince the taxman to go away. The real troubles at Kingsmeadow are totally a result of little things that you or your neighbour will never know, the king that directors discuss at 4pm on some idle Tuesday.

Do one thing every game that scares you.

Sing.

Don't be reckless with other team's mascots. Don't put up with other team's mascots who are reckless with you.

Disco.

Don't waste your time on hating Woking. Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind. The race is long and, in the end, it's only Woking.

Remember compliments you receive. Forget the insults. If you succeed in doing this, tell Eddie Saunders.

Keep your old matchday magazines. Throw away your old season tickets.

Drink.

Don't feel guilty if you don't know what the board are doing. The most interesting K's fans I know are people who didn't know what the board were up to 22 years ago. Some of the most interesting board members still don't know.

Get in plenty of Grolsch.

Be kind to Phil Wingfield. You'll miss him when he's gone.

Maybe we'll get promotion, maybe we won't. Maybe we'll win the cup, maybe we won't. Maybe you'll stop going at 40, maybe you'll have a disco when Wingers scores his 100th goal. Whatever you do, don't congratulate K's too much, or berate them either. Most of our goals are half chances. So are everybody else's.

Enjoy your 10% discount. Use it every way you can. Don't be afraid of it or of what other people think of it. It's the greatest instrument you'll ever own.

Disco, even if you have nowhere to do it but the clubhouse.

Read the manager's programme notes, even if you don't follow them. Do not read beauty magazines. They will only make Andy Riley appear more ugly.

Get to know Chris Kelly. You never know when he'll be gone for good. Be nice to Phil Wingfield. He's your best link to K's past and the person most likely to stick with the club in the future.

Understand that players come and go, but you should always give free transfers to carthorses like Steve McKimm. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more ridiculous Patto's Farnborough salary will appear.

Live in New Malden once, but leave before it makes you hard. Live in deepest Surrey once, but leave before it makes you soft.

Travel (to away games).

Accept certain inalienable truths: Admission will rise. The ground will rot. Ronnie Green, too, will get old. And then you'll fantasize that when you were young, prices were reasonable, K's won trophies, and Ronnie Green did play at Wembley. Respect Ronnie Green.

Don't expect anyone else to support us. Maybe we'll be floated. Maybe we'll have a wealthy benefactor. But you never know when either one might run out.

Don't mess too much with your hair, or by the time you're 40 it will look like Dean Hooper's.

Be careful whose players you buy, but be patient with those with serious knee injuries.

Graham Westley is a form of nostalgia. He is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more that it's worth.

But trust me on supporting K's.

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IVOR BOWNTAPIK TELLS IT LIKE IT IS

Due to un-popular demand, Ivor Bowntapik is back with more inane drivel...

Do you want to know what gets my goat? What really makes my blood boil? Well I’ll tell you. It’s nothing to do with the money – even if my old Gran, whose been dead thirty-eight years this coming Christmas, could have done a better job than those “directors”. Directors? What the hell direction were they aiming in then? I ask you. My old Gran would never have bet her life savings on us beating that pile of crap Brockenhurst. Brockenhurst? What the hell league are they in anyway? I ask you.

But no – it’s not them I’m worried about. Nor is it this new bloke Sedgley. What’s up with his neck anyway? Did that Gazza bloke used to swing on his head or what? So what if he won the FA Cup? Never played for England did he? Didn’t even play for Ireland. I ask you.

So anyway, no, it’s not him. It’s all those pesky kids that that Sedgley bloke has brought in. And they’ve got no respect have they? None of them. Take that Greg bloke for one – a few weeks ago he had a half-way decent game, then at the end he nicked the match ball!! In my day we’d have got a good clip round the ear and been fined a week’s wages – and let me tell you, in my day that was a loss to be upset about. It used to last us a whole week back then – not like these kids today. One pay packet lasts them a whole month. Over-paid? Course they are. Bloody well over-played too if you ask me.

But see there’s the problem right there. All these young kids have been brought in, but there’s nobody with any brains left is there? These kids today get told a bunch of crap when they’re young. “Learn to play with both feet”? What the hell’s the point of that? If you’re a left winger what do you need your right for? I ask you. “Eat a balanced diet”? What the f***? In my day we’d eat steak and chips for dinner on a Friday, steak and chips and an egg for breakfast on Saturday and steak and chips with a pint of bitter just before kick-off. And it never did me any harm now did it? Course not. And I can’t see many of these veggie boys getting stuck in when it’s blowing a gale. Steak and chips lads – that’s the way forward. I ask you.

Anyway, you’ve got to feel for that Williams bloke haven’t you? I mean there he was, playing a pub side’s reserves in the New Forest – New Forest? What the f***? They said it was new when I used to go there for my holiday with my old Gran. And she’s been dead thirty-eight years this coming Christmas. Anyway, I know why we lost I do. They were too nice to us. Honestly.

Well did you get a cup of tea there? F*** me. I did, and I tell you – best cup of tea I’ve had since the great tea-bag boom of 1936. And they gave it to us in a mug didn’t they? That’s the sort of hospitality you want here Kelly – not like those bloody plastic things those girls give out. I ask you. Real china we want. Anyway, must go. The wife’s telling me my evening cup of tea’s ready. I tell you – those mugs will last years. And who cares if it’s got a picture of a Badger on it? Not me. That Williams bloke might not like it, but I couldn’t give a toss.

IB

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